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2020 Oratorical Contest Results
Many people rank public speaking just above the fear of heights and pit viper bites. That was not the case for the ten students who participated in the 49th Coronado Optimist’s Oratory Contest on March 2nd in the Coronado Library Winn Room. The rhetorical topic, which all thought quite challenging, was Just Imagine a World Without Boundaries.
The room quieted as the student addressed the boundary theme. The judges reviewed content, poise, presentation, confidence, and speech quality. Pride and enthusiasm hovered over the presenter’s family and friends.
Indeed, there were rhetorical differences between contestants, but the speaker’s confidence blended across all participants. Angst and crowd-fears were carefully managed and overshadowed by their self-assuredness.
One thought to themself what an enjoyable learning experience this contest provides and how speaking skills would be so essential in their future in academic, career, and informal settings.
The contest ended; judges left the room to score the individual presentations. Parents gave hugs to their son or daughter and congratulations were shared with families and contestants. When the judges returned the Coronado Optimist Club President Dennis Dorman and President-elect Robert Kracht presented each student a well-earned Certificate of Participation and then presented the Gold Medallion to Fatima Morfin, the Silver Medallion to Aidan McKerring, and the Bronze Medallions to Valeria Lopez. Fatima and Aidan now move on to the district Zone 2 contest. Congratulations to all!
Judges for the contest were Paul Lull, George Kunberger and Mike Croll, with Sue Cargill serving as timekeeper; Marta Radcliffe and Jon Jacobson as greeters/curators; Pat Kelly, Sergeant-At-Arms; Lee Cargill, photographer; Mike Lavin, contest scribe; and Gene Rathswohl, contest coordinator – Optimist Club members all. And special thanks goes to Courtnie Marshall, Sacred Heart’s Language Arts teacher who worked so diligently to prepare the students.
Weekly Optimist Meeting 02-27-2020
Caroline Lull lead us off with a prayer asking for God's blessing on our CHS Boys Basketball Team who plays for the San Diego Division III Championship tonight against San Ysidro. Bill (don't be a stranger) Carinder started off the Pledge of Allegiance.
GUESTS: Mark Blumenthal brought Paul Piepenkottev to the meeting for the fourth time. Paul helped with the Hwy Cleanup this last Saturday. Let's get that man an application.
Mark also brought a potential future Optimist Jake McKanry to the meeting. Jake is a senior at CHS and met Mark last night drinking cokes at the VFW hall. Good thing Lazlo wasn't at todays meeting.
EAGLE SCOUT PROJECTS: We had two great young men in today to pitch their Eagle Scout Projects.
Skyler McLeroy: Skyler is building a Garden Tool Shed at Cadman Elementary. The shed is needed to allow the students (who otherwise would not be able) to access and store gardening tools to work in the school garden. The shed will be made from durable wood, have a shingled roof, be mobile and will be painted Navy and Silver (the Cadman School colors) Looks like a great project.
Roman Goodmanson: is building three Industrial grade benches to provide places to sit in his Coronado School quad. Another great project.
PRESIDENT'S ANNOUNCEMENTS
Joy of Reading Kick Off: Tomorrow Dennis will be astounding children at the Coronado library costumed as the Cat in the Hat accompanied by Cindy, aka Marta, Lou Who with her novel hairdo. Junior Optimists will also be present. To avoid nightmares for the little tykes Bill Parry will not attend in one of his many costumes.
Also, we received this thank you note from the Junior Optimist Club for our help and donations for recent the Super Bowl of Caring food drive.
OPPORTUNITY OF A LIFETIME
You can come and enjoy a beautiful sunrise just like this, plus enjoy stimulating conversation with Gooch, Lyman, Rich and Mike (our setup crew). How you ask? Simply contact Brenda Kracht and sign up to be a greeter. Brenda has a signup sheet going around or you can just send her a note at bmkracht@hotmail.com.
Optimist Club Oratory Contest: Will be held on March 2 at 3:30 PM in the Winn Room. Come out and see some very talented kids. This years topic is " Imagine a world without boarders".
Prayer Sign Up for March and April: Sign up sheet is circulating or contact Charlie Ahren (ahern@msn.com) to sign up.
Coronado Round Table: Tomorrow's speaker will Vice Adm. Charles W. Martoglio, US Navy (ret). Adm. Martoglio will speak on international issues that will shape America's security in the coming Decade. The talk begins at 10:00 AM in the Coronado Library Winn Rm. Kirk strongly suggests that you arrive plenty early as this is bound to be a popular talk.
Flower Show Security: Matt Jordan needs a few more volunteers to help with Flower Show security. Saturday 4/18 1500-1700and Sunday 4/19 1000-1200 and 1200 to 1400. Matt needs about 8 more volunteers. Contact Matt at mattj8001@gmail.com or call him at 214 543-8878.
CLUB ANNOUNCEMENTS
COME TO THE SPRING FLING
April 21 5:00-8:00 PM at the the Coronado Golf Course. No Host Bar from 5-6, followed by dinner (Grilled Chicken or Salmon, salad and a dessert Extravaganza). Cost $45/person.
Reserve your place by 4/1/2020 with Brenda Kracht at bmkracht@hotmail.com or call her at 619-435-9027. Checks Payable to "Optimist Club of Coronado" or contct Don Crawford to pay by card.
HISTORY LESSON
John Steinbeck was born this date in 1902. His masterpiece, The Grapes of Wrath, told the story of the dispossessed Okies of the Depression and dust bowl era. It has been compared in impact to Uncle Tom’s Cabin. It not only became a part of history; it helped to make history. Not too many of us can capture and record our own times as Steinbeck did in that book; but on his birthday we can take a long, hard, searching look at our much different world just as needy of compassion and tolerance.none.none.Rich Owens won $38 in the opportunity drawing this week.The Ding master was really out to collect money for the kids today. Dave Bean, Dave Hoppe, Ted Krohne, and Joe Mullin were all caught without their pins.
John Bowen was late, go figure.
Kirk Henry received some local press and didn't say he was an Optimist.
Floyd Humphreys self reported about bragging in the last meeting with out putting a dollar in.Ted Krohne bragged about the folks who came out, despite the threat of rain last Saturday to help clean up the Strand Hwy. Thank guys.
Irish bragged about the toughness and resilience of his wife Edith, who after suffering a heart attack recently went through corrective surgery. It was a difficult surgery that few people over 75 can survive. Edith is recovering and doing well. We certainly want to pass on our prayers and best wished to Irish and Edith.
Brenda bragged about her ninth grandchild Bo who was born three months early, but is doing well.
Paul Lull bragged about the CHS Boys basketball team playing for the San Diego Div III Championship tonight against Mar Vista.
Dan Hendrickson bragged his two granddaughters number 6 and 7.
Bill Carinder bragged about the Philadelphia Eagles, whoops I meant the Kansas City Chiefs. Whoever they are.
HISTORICAL INFO
Today is the birthday of one of America’s greatest heroes. He was cheered longer and louder than virtually anybody of his time—and he never ran for office or made feminine hearts flutter or discovered a cure for a disease. His name was George Herman Ruth, possibly the outstanding baseball player of all time but something more—the epitome of irreverent, roistering, hail-fellow well-met masculine America.
Feminized social media would crucify him today. It is worth remembering America used to have a particular fondness for rough diamonds, for people who do whatever they do better than anybody has ever done it before. Today political correctness would have ended his career before it started.
Guest Speakers:
Becky Weeks
Youth Environmental Alliance "YEA"
Our guest speaker today was Becky Weeks of the Youth Environmental Alliance "YEA". YEA's primary mission is to provide opportunities for youth and their families to connect with the outdoors while fostering a life long respect for our planet's future.
YEA started 16 years ago and was primarily focused on Florida's environment. Since that time they have expanded to San Diego, Internationally and other places in the country. YEA relies entirely on grants and individual donations to support their programs Some of their accomplishments since beginning the program include:
- 203,212 Diversity Plants Planted
- 2903 Trees Planted
- 118 Pollinator Gardens Installed
- 164,919 People served, including thousands of students taught about Environmental and Biological science in and out of the classroom
The staff consist of 10 full time employees with numerous science and technical degrees as well as over 1000 volunteers.
Their methodology requires that their programs and projects must include
seven characteristics.
- Action Oriented
- Experiential: they must experience the learning, not just read about it
- Future Oriented; must be about things in the future not about things that have happened or already are
- Holistic: Combine every aspect of environmental engineering
- Interdisciplinary: Must involve multiple sciences. This reinforces their commitment to teaching to STEMM standards
- Issue Oriented: Moving forward to help propose a solution to an issue
- Inclusive
We want to thank Becky for introducing us to the fantastic program. If you would like to learn more, you can visit their website at www.yeafrog.org.
Next Week's Speaker
A Representative from the Navy Seal Foundation Ironman Foundation
Find Us
Every Thursday Morning at 7:00 am in the Coronado Community Center.
1845 Strand Way
Coronado, CA 92118
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Weekly Optimist Meeting 02-13-2020
Lyman Green lead us off with a beautiful prayer reminding us to keep our hearts open to love. Googe started off the Pledge of Allegiance.
GUESTS: We had one guest this morning. Mary Watson, the club CPA and John Watson's wife of 39 years.
PRESIDENT'S ANNOUNCEMENTS
TOMORROW IS VALENTINES DAY: In honor of this day of love and romance our President had the lovely Marta Radcliffe hand out a red rose to each of our members,
Pennies for Pasta:Final day of Pennies for Pasta at 11:42 AM in the office of the Coronado Middle School. Last week we had only one counter so please come help if you can.
Optimist International Awards. Dianna Drummey gave out lots of gifts, including watches and certificates, on behalf of the Optimist International to the Coronado Leadership Team for our club being designated as a Honor Club and the district being named as a Distinguished District. The club members who were honored were:
Carla Fargo, Mark Blumenthal, Joe Moore, Charles Helsper and Dianna herself.
Congratulations to the whole clib who worked hard to receive these distinguished awards last year
CHS Men's and Women's Golf Team: Members of the team's alomg with their coach Stewart Gordon came in to receive a check for $800. The team intends to use the money this year to purchase some outer garmentsto use during their competion. Our guests also gave us short overview of the success the team is having including one member Crista Izuzquiza who finished third in the California State competition out of approxiamtely 5000 women who competed.
HISTORY LESSON
This is an important day for enlightenment in America. On this date, back in 1635, the oldest American public school, the Boston Latin School, began. This nation has been dedicated to free public education ever since. We have always wanted Americans to be educated people. We haven’t always succeeded. We have a lot of room for improvement after nearly four hundred years. Modern media and press, as well as standardized curriculum, seeks to homogenize knowledge. Let us hope we never loose intellectual curiosity in America and our tolerance of differences in thought and opinion.
CLUB ANNOUNCEMENTS
OPTIMIST ORATORY CONTEST
This years contest will be held March 2 in the Winn Room. See Gene Rathswohl if you'de like to get involved, or just plan on coming to the event and cheer the kids on. They really are a bunch of tallented young people.
$$BOARD OF DIRECTORS APPROVES MANY DONATIONS. YOUR HARD WORK PAYS OFF.$$
- CHS Boys Tennis Team $400
- CHS Girls Basketball Team $400
- CHS Robotics Club $500
- CMS ROBOTICS CLUB $500
PASTA FOR PENNIES IS HERE!
WE NEED MORE THAN FOUR VOLUNTEERS SO PLEASE SHOW UP IF YOU CAN.
The counts on February 6th and 13th will be occurring at 11:42-1:117.
JOI Liaison is CMS Teacher Matt Smith if you have any questions: matthew.smith@coronadousd.net
CORONADO TALENT SHOW
Saturday February 22, 7:00 PM at the Coronado High School Theater. Ticket Prices range from $30 to $75. Proceeds go to support the Coronado School Foundation. Contact Renee Cavanaugh if you have any questions.
DISTRICT MEETING
The District Quarterly Board of Directors meeting will be held this Saturday Feb. 8 at 9:00 AM in the Elk Club in Santee. All optimist are welcome to attend. Contact Al Aegerter if you have any questions.
On Feb. 8 George Bassola celebrated 5 years, sponsored by William Rogers; on Feb. 9 Mike Lavin celebrated 9 years, sponsored by your President; and, today, Michael Manning celebrated 7 years, sponsored by Jack Couture.Jon Jacobson from Waukegan, IL. celebrated his birthday on Feb. 10.Paul Lull won $27 this week.
Mike Lavin, Pat Kelly and Diana Drummey were all dinged for not wearing their pins today.
Leslie Crawford, Dave Bean and Karl Mueller were all dinged for failing to identify themselves as Optimist in various news reports
Shannon Peril got an at-a-boy for identifying herself as a proud optimist
Lee Cargill received a ding pass just the fact he's been dinged so much in the past.
Floyd bragged about her company receiving their patent
Karl bragged about the success the Coronado School District had on the last round of state as well as High School standardized college entrance exams.
Bill Parry bragged about Dennis our President reestablishing the tradition of giving roses out on Valentines Day
Dennis bragged a little about how his parents first fell in love.
Don Crawford bragged about Mary Watson (our guest today) for being our CPA and keeping the club out of trouble.
Gene Rathswohl bragged about their new Granddaughter
George Kunberger bragged about his daughter making it past the final round to become a Partner at PWC
HISTORICAL INFO
Today is the birthday of one of America’s greatest heroes. He was cheered longer and louder than virtually anybody of his time—and he never ran for office or made feminine hearts flutter or discovered a cure for a disease. His name was George Herman Ruth, possibly the outstanding baseball player of all time but something more—the epitome of irreverent, roistering, hail-fellow well-met masculine America.
Feminized social media would crucify him today. It is worth remembering America used to have a particular fondness for rough diamonds, for people who do whatever they do better than anybody has ever done it before. Today political correctness would have ended his career before it started.
Guest Speakers:
Ironman Foundation
Today we had two representative from the Ironman Foundation in to give us an overview ot the SuperFrog and SuperSeal competions held here in Cornado.
The Superfrog competition was started by a member of the local SEAL TEAMs (Lt Moki Martin) in 1979 as a way for members of the SEALs to compete in a half ironman triathlon event. The race grew in popularity and Moki eventually added the Superseal competition which actually consists of two events. One and Olympic Triathlon and a Sprint Triathlon.
The SuperFrog Competition which is now referred to as Superfrog 70.3 is held in September and the Superseal competition is held in March
In 2015 Ironman acquired the rights to the Superfrog and Superseal competitions. Ironman which is headquarters in Tampa Florida conducts Ironman and Triathlon competitions all around the world.
The Ironman Foundation is the non-profit arm of Ironman. Its primary mission is to work with local communities to give back. This consists of actively engaging in community events and cleanup efforts to making grants to local non-profit organizations. The Ironman Foundation has been a strong financial supporter of the Coronado Optimist Club in recognition of all the volunteer help our club provides at these two events on the Silver Strand.
Next Week's Speaker
A Representative from the Navy Seal Foundation Ironman Foundation
Find Us
Every Thursday Morning at 7:00 am in the Coronado Community Center.
1845 Strand Way
Coronado, CA 92118
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Souper Bowl of Caring 2020
Junior Optimist had their Souper Bowl of Caring Food Drive today, Super Bowl Sunday. The Junior Optimist Club of Coronado would like to thank all those who donated to help this collection be a great success!
Announcing the 2020 Oratorical Contest
Ever wonder what it would be like to live with no constraints? No limitations? No frustrations? Coronado school students have an opportunity to muse on these ideas and speak on the theme Just Imagine a World Without Boundaries in the 2020 Coronado Optimists Oratorical Contest.
This is the 49th year of the Coronado Optimists’ contest and will be held in the Winn Room at the Coronado Library on Monday, March 2nd at 3:30 – 6:00p.m. The contest is an enjoyable but serious public-speaking opportunity for Coronado students to explore why they are so confident and optimistic about their future. All are invited to attend the contest, especially the students’ families and friends, and be amazed with the students’ insights and the quality of their speeches.
All Coronado school students, including home-schooled students, under the age of 19 as of October 1, 2019 (there is no minimum age) are eligible to participate and encouraged to apply. Students are urged to work with his/her teacher to prepare their speech.
The students’ 4 – 5 minute speeches, delivered from memory, are judged on content, presentation, poise, and overall effectiveness. Each student receives a participation certificate and the top three students receive medallions and cash awards. The top two students can go on to compete at the Optimists zone and district level contests in April for college scholarships up to $2,500; the district level winner can participate in the regional contest and the Optimist Oratorical World Championship in July for a college scholarships up to $15,000.
The Application form, which includes all the contest rules, is below. It is also available from Gene Rathswohl, the contest coordinator, at erathswohl@san.rr.com.
Completed application forms should be mailed to:
Gene Rathswohl
924 Eighth Street
Coronado, CA 92118
Applications must be received by Wednesday, February 26, 2020.
A maximum of 20 students can participate, so the earlier an application is submitted the better. Feel free to contact Gene with any questions you have regarding the contest.
2019 Winners
2019 Oratorical Contest Results
MeOptimism Declaimed, Wonderfully: Fourteen eager students, aged eleven to fourteen, from Sacred Heart Parish School and Coronado Middle School, spoke on the topic Is There A Fine Line Between Reality And Optimism? at the Coronado Optimists 48th Annual Oratorical Contest on February 27th in the Library’s Winn Room. All the students carried themselves well and dealt with this seemingly dry topic with winning charm, vivacity, and persuasive sincerity to the delight parents, siblings, and Optimists filling the Coronado Library’s Winn Room. The Gold, Silver, and Bronze Medallion winners were: Logan McKerring, Valeria Quiroga, and Marietta Renison. Bravos to all!
There were many memorable moments in the students’ 4 – 5 minute speeches. They quoted many historic optimists including Henry Ford, “…If you think you can or you can’t you are right,” “…Failure is simply the opportunity to begin again, this time more intelligently,” and added their own insightful aphorisms, “…Reality is life, optimism makes life better,” “…Reality is the facts of life that surround you, but optimism is a positive lens through which you view your reality,” “…Things happen because of our optimism in ourselves and in others,” “…If Jack can climb the beanstalk, you can get your job…,” “…it was through optimism and family love that we got through that reality…,” “….Optimism is a state of mind...that can steer you to accept any reality…,” and “I am optimistic that I have a chance of winning this contest today, and that is my way of showing optimism in reality.” Coronado
Optimist Club President Carla Fargo and President-elect Dennis Dorman presented each student a well-earned Certificate of Participation and thanked the parents and teachers for encouraging their students to enter the contest. All were very proud of their students, daughters and sons who are terrific young adults with bright futures
Judges for the contest were Mike Lavin, Paul Lull, and George Kunberger, with Sue Cargill serving as timekeeper; Marta Radcliffe, Julia Turpit, and Molly McKay as greeters/curators; Pat Kelly, Sergeant-At-Arms; Lee Cargill, photographer; Irish Flynn, contest scribe; and Gene Rathswohl, contest coordinator – Optimist Club members all.
Announcing the 2019 Oratorical Contest
The Wall! Immigrants!! Climate Change!! Violence and conflicts!! Poverty!! Security!! The list of human concerns goes on and on. What is the reality of these issues? Can we be optimistic about the future? Coronado school students are urged to express their own thoughts and concerns in the 2019 Coronado Optimists Oratorical Contest on the topic Is There A Fine Line Between Optimism And Reality?
This is the 48th year of the Coronado Optimists’ contest and will be held in the Winn Room at the Coronado Library on Wednesday, February 27th at 3:30 – 6:00p.m. The contest is an enjoyable but serious public-speaking opportunity for Coronado students to explore why they are so confident and optimistic about their future. All are invited to attend the contest, especially the students’ families and friends, and be amazed with the students’ insights and the quality of their speeches.
All Coronado school students, including home-schooled students, under the age of 19 as of October 1, 2018 (there is no minimum age) are eligible to participate and encouraged to apply. Students are urged to work with his/her teacher to prepare their speech.
The students’ 4 – 5 minute speeches are judged on content, presentation, poise, and overall effectiveness. All the students receive participation certificates and the top three students receive medallions and cash awards. The top two students can go on to compete at the Optimists zone and district level contests in April for college scholarships up to $2,500; the district level winner can participate in the Optimist Oratorical World Championship in July for a college scholarship up to $22,500.
The Application form, which includes all the contest rules, is below. It is also available from Gene Rathswohl, the contest coordinator, at erathswohl@san.rr.com.
Completed application forms should be mailed to:
Gene Rathswohl
924 Eighth Street
Coronado, CA 92118
Applications must be received by Friday, February 22, 2019.
A maximum of 20 students can participate, so the earlier an application is submitted the better. Feel free to contact Gene with any questions you have regarding the contest.
(image above is from the 2018 Oratorical Contest)
Optimist Club Sports Fiesta 2018 Results
Thank you to all participants of the Optimist Club of Coronado's Sports Fiesta 2018!
Optimist Sports Fiesta 2018
New and Old Events Highlight 2018 Optimists Club’s Sports Fiesta
It is historic. It is fun, and most importantly, it is an inspiring collaboration of local businesses joining forces to support Coronado’s youth.
Returning events include the 1-mile rough water ocean swim, a 5K run, and the longest, continuous running triathlon in the world. The triathlon consists of a 400 yard ocean swim, 1-mile run and 4-mile bike ride.
New events on Saturday, July 28, include a Cornhole tournament (youth and adult divisions) and Family Carnival. Both will run from noon - 4:00 pm at Sunset Park. Beach Volleyball at North Beach begins at 9 am. Pickleball and Lawn Bowling tournaments will be on Sunday, July 29th at the Coronado Marriott and Spreckels Community Center and Bowling Green, respectively.
For spectators and those who just want to hang out and enjoy a Coronado tradition, there will be a picnic area from noon to 4pm at Sunset Park. All are encouraged to bring their own food and drink, (no alcohol please) or they can order from Panera, which will be taking orders and delivering to Sunset Park July 28th.
Entrance fees range from $10 (for under 18) to $40 (day of registration). Some events are capped, so sign up early by clicking the Sports Fiesta link at the top of this page. Carnival games are just 50 cents and everyone wins a prize!
A Tribute to Optimist Stan Searfus
This morning we had a special presentation by Ben Ruef. His mother, Julie, is an Optimist Club member. Ben was one of the lucky kids who was mentored by our own Optimist, the late Stan Searfus. Ben produced a spectacular tribute video of Stan and gave us a showing. Excellent and inspiring work, Ben. You've created a lasting legacy for one of the good guys, our friend Stan.
CHS Girls Basketball
The CHS Girls Basketball Team came to update us on their season. We give them a check to help with their expenses. It's always a pleasure to see the youth we support at our meetings!
Coronado Junior Optimist Activities
Coronado's Junior Optimist Club, sponsored by the Optimist Club of Coronado, participated in group activities and team building with other Junior Optimist clubs from the San Diego/CALSOUTH area.
A nice turnout of 18 enthusiastic Junior Optimists and three Junior Optimist Club Advisors met at the Mission Bay Santa Clara Recreation Center near the Sail Bay area of the Park on January 20, 2018. Junior Optimists representing six California South (CALSO) District Junior Optimist Clubs shared a morning of fun activities led by Immediate Past President of Junior Optimist International, O'Hara Wickham, and current Junior Optimist International Director, and Coronado's own, Cole Mullins.
The group performed a team oriented, "ice breaker" activity searching the floor for answers to questions posed by the leaders. New friendships were made, and a lot of fun was had by all. The Club Members shared their recent and current Club activities and upcoming plans. The leaders shared news from the CALSO JOI District and Junior Optimist International and upcoming Scholarship Contests, including Essay, Oratorical, and the Reel Optimism Video Contest. A pizza luncheon was enjoyed by all before the teams headed out for the beach cleanup community service project. Books were collected for the inner city school in the CALSO JOI District wide 'Joy of Reading' service project. The event was concluded with a clean beach, happy Junior Optimists, and thanks from the Park Ranger for a job well done!
Optimist Sports Fiesta Video 2017
We are fortunate to have a member who has a very talented son! Ben Ruef documented our Sports Fiesta with a beautifully creative video. Thanks, Ben!!!
Installation Dinner Sep 18, 2017
On Monday at Spiros we had our annual Installation of the new board with President Crawford and release of the old board with President Zoll. Molly and Renee did a marvelous job setting up our party...food was delightful, and the company was superb. Matt Heinecke was a great addition to the evening of friendship and lovely sunset on the San Diego Bay. Again mission accomplished by Zoll and welcome Don and his team. Looking forward to another great year of Optimism.
Eagle Scout Candidate Jack Schiaffino
Jack Schiaffino, accompanied by his parents, came to share his completed Eagle Scout project at NASNI. He thanked the Optimist Club of Coronado for helping him with expenses of the project. Congratulations, Jack, on a job well done!
New Member Johnny Perez
The Optimist Club of Coronado welcomed a new member into our club. Johnny Perez was a guest speaker and apparently liked what he saw, so he came back and decided to join! Welcome to the club, Johnny!!!